Comments on: UNION ATLANTIC by Adam Haslett /2010/union-atlantic-by-adam-haslett/ We Love to Read! Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:28:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.4.18 By: Judi Clark /2010/union-atlantic-by-adam-haslett/comment-page-1/#comment-1821 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:30:32 +0000 /?p=7758#comment-1821 Oh, Kirstin. I’ll probably not write the review since I have 3 books assigned to myself that I haven’t yet done.

Huh… I never thought of Doug not making it. More likely it is as Poornima says, that Doug made it in and out without consequence, again.

The ending is quite interesting because there is a lot to wonder about. Not just Doug’s involvement with Umm Qasr, but with his dreams and sightings of Nate.

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By: poornima /2010/union-atlantic-by-adam-haslett/comment-page-1/#comment-1819 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:32:32 +0000 /?p=7758#comment-1819 Wow — you guys have really been at it! I didn’t realize there was so much back-and-forth on this one :) I got the impression from the conclusion that Doug (once again) missed the punishing actions and slipped out before things heated up. But I should re-read the book – maybe I have missed some nuance buried in there!

I get the feeling that I liked the book a lot more than Kirstin did but less than Judi. I didn’t think anybody soured as the action went along–I just thought it all made more sense (you could see where everyone was coming from). Even if people are nasty, as long as I can understand where they’re coming from, I’m okay with it.

Judi, you’re right about Charlotte — at times I felt like she was giving voice to my thoughts!! :)

Poornima

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By: Kirstin /2010/union-atlantic-by-adam-haslett/comment-page-1/#comment-1807 Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:57:29 +0000 /?p=7758#comment-1807 Yes, or U.S. involvement in the Iraqi banking system; internationalism in banking makes both likely. Also, as intimated in the novel, Umm Qasr was the post city where the Iraq War began in 2003. I wonder whether there was any chance that Doug might have been captured by American forces. Or maybe they just thought he was CIA and left him alone. Probably, he slipped in and out before hostilities really got going. There was a report of Iraqis destroying an oil depot, but I’m not sure that was confirmed; if they did, were we supposed to wonder whether Doug didn’t make it? But mainly, you are probably right that the reason for mentioning Umm Qasr had to do with potential financial fallout.

Are you still thinking of writing a review, Judi? It would be great to read more detail about your thoughts on this complex novel.

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By: Judi Clark /2010/union-atlantic-by-adam-haslett/comment-page-1/#comment-1804 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:12:34 +0000 /?p=7758#comment-1804 O.K. I have finished the book for the second time. Kirstin, I think you are asking about the mission that Doug is on and what I make of this last sentence of the book:

“There were documents a computer in the offices of the oil depot at Umm Qasr and someone wanted them secured.”

Now that I’m at the end again, I realize that one motivation for re-reading was to make sense of this ending! My guess is that the papers might have something to do with Prince Abdul-Aziz Hafar’s visit to New York during the private bailout of Union Atlantic. Maybe, it was to make sure that the Iraqi involvement in our banking system remained unknown?

What do you think?

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By: Judi Clark /2010/union-atlantic-by-adam-haslett/comment-page-1/#comment-1797 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:35:26 +0000 /?p=7758#comment-1797 Hi Kirstin… I’ve been composing my thoughts on this book (in my head) as I re-read the book again and was going to wait until I finished this second time before I responded. But since you are asking….

I think this will become one of my top reads for the year. I like the book a lot.. I like how Haslett has chronicled the times. I don’t like much about our current state so I guess I don’t expect to like the people that have made the decisions to get us here. So for me it is neither here nor there that I like these characters. But I do feel for them. And I do find the story compelling… even the second time. There are so many thoughts and observations that are so spot on. I will say that I do seem to have more sympathy for the characters on the second read than I did on the first. Especially Charlotte. I see just how off-center she is. But I also see her as a metaphor for the liberals/democrats.

But you ask if the conclusion meets with my approval.. and that I don’t have an answer for yet. I mean I don’t like that Doug has an out but I do find it credible – why wouldn’t he have a way out? What I’m still struggling with the meaning of his last dreams involving both Nate and his mother — and thus I’m reading their whole relationship much more closely this second time. But let me finish the second read and I’ll answer this question again. If I get real ambitious I’ll write a review.

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By: Kirstin /2010/union-atlantic-by-adam-haslett/comment-page-1/#comment-1796 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:27:36 +0000 /?p=7758#comment-1796 Hi, Judi~

So, what did you decide in the end? I’m dying to know whether you continued to like it as much or whether your views of the characters changed (soured?) and whether the conclusion met with your approval….

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By: Judi Clark /2010/union-atlantic-by-adam-haslett/comment-page-1/#comment-1741 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:00:10 +0000 /?p=7758#comment-1741 I decided to give UNION ATLANTIC a read to see what side I came out on…. I’m only one third of the way through, but so far I am liking it very much. Poornima, describing it as a “snapshot of our times” seems quite accurate to me — and the writing is superb. So far, I am not bothered by the nature of the characters, as it is one of the reasons the reasons I read is to get under the skin of others. At this point, I’m just curious about how it will work itself out, and of course, knowing the sequence of real events in the last decade, makes this fiction all the more interesting. I’ll comment again when I get to the end.

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By: poornima /2010/union-atlantic-by-adam-haslett/comment-page-1/#comment-1714 Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:03:36 +0000 /?p=7758#comment-1714 I definitely thought it was well-done even if it would not go on my best of the year list–it needs more heft for it to. I did see a couple of good and bad reviews of the book so yes, it’s interesting to see people’s takes on it.

After all the news headlines, I imagined it would be very easy to hate Doug Fanning and I very often did. But I do believe that at the end, he comes across as a person with his own motivations. Sure those motivations are greed and avarice but he definitely didn’t come across as caricature–not to me.

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By: Kirstin /2010/union-atlantic-by-adam-haslett/comment-page-1/#comment-1712 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:28:21 +0000 /?p=7758#comment-1712 Poornima, it is nice to read a review that actually likes this book. I’m afraid I can’t count myself in that group. I had high hopes when I read the advance summary, but when I actually read the novel and became familiar with the characters, I found myself hard-pressed to have any sympathy for anyone, except perhaps Henry. To me, this seems a study of addiction to various things, and I found it difficult to enjoy the book when the characters were so unrelentingly themselves and pursuing those addictions.

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